Hillary is…
do I really have to say it again?! She’s officially become the biggest whiner of all time. Please just read this article about her wanting to challenge Texas and the way they count their votes (you know, now that she’s lagging in the polls) and then refer to my blog entries listed below.
one would think Hillary would be tired of being such a whiner about the Xerox and Saturday Night Live. Not to mention the Caucuses aren’t fair or I always have to answer first. Hillary, if you’re staying up late to come up with this crap…then get some sleep.
http://infogiant.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/texas-primary-caucus-an-explanation-for-the-curious/
http://infogiant.wordpress.com/2008/02/25/would-the-real-hillary-please-stand-up/
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Please take that photo down, it just made the baby cry. Seriously scary.
Only those who are completely ignorant of the role of the media in election campaigns would disregard Hillary’s valid complaints.
Let’s see you debate someone who always gets to answer after you’ve given your answer (Can you name any other debate in which that has happened?), or have your speech cut-off mid-sentence to switch to the other person’s speech in front of millions of voting television viewers, when both speeches could have been aired in their entirety, in the name of fair treatment of both candidates.
You think this isn’t worth complaining about? You shouldn’t be writing about politics, because this IS politics. The media is a political machine–maybe you should take a few more freshman classes in journalism and the media before we get into a debate about it.
It’s nice to be coddled (as Barack knows), but it smacks of inauthenticity (as in,”It’s unpatriotic to criticize the war”) when the coddled side trivializes the victim’s mistreatment. Damn right she should complain–Obamacans nastiness notwithstanding!
Let’s list what Hillary has complained about:
1) The caucus processes.
These rules were all set up ahead of time and her failure to plan for it epitomizes her campaign and lack of a strategy, hardly a point for her being “ready” on day one.
2) The Michigan and Florida contests that SHE AGREED should and would not count and then later changing her stance after she won an uncontested contest.
Another case of her complaining after the results are in.
3) Getting the first question sometimes.
NONE of the debates are one person first and the second person has the last word, they all allow back and forth for both candidates to get their points accross…as seen when the health care debate went on for 16 minutes. Most people PREFER getting the first question to put the second person on the defensive as you get to decide where to take the question.
4) That Barack was using the same lines from one of his campaign chairs who suggested he use the lines as it was the same argument he had made before. Then in the same debate lifting the same line John Edwards had used in a similar speech.
5) Complaining about the right wing attack machine using 9/11 to scare up the fear vote…and then airing an ad using the same fear tactic to suggest that if you vote for her opponent, that something bad would happen.
6) Complaining that special interests are the problem in Washington, and then taking more money from lobbyist than any other person in this campaign than any Republican or Democrat, but saying that it wouldn’t affect how she legislates.
Hillary if full of hypocrisy that cannot be ignored.
Have fun with your journalism classes, but I think you need a few debate classes…yours/Hillary’s complaints ring hollow, much like her campaign.
Regarding:
1) & 2) I agree, and have always felt that whatever Hillary and Barack agreed to abide by earlier should be adhered to. They made that bed and they should both sleep in it.
This also applies to Obama’s promise to only use Federal funds should he become the nominee–something he is rather hypocritically, but surely, trying to back away from (now that he’s got the taste of real campaign money in his mouth). McCain is already calling him to task…In other words, he’s no different than Hillary–they’re both lawyer-politicians, only one has experience and the other has a great false-preacher style of rhetorical speaking.
Re: 3) Your wording is deceptive. Hillary didn’t get the first question “sometimes”; she got the first question nearly all of the time. And anyone with debate experience knows it is beneficial to answer last, because it affords room to a) learn your opponent’s view, b) expand upon it, c) criticize it first. It is a BIG advantage in a debate.
Re: 4) If you believe Obama got permission first to use those lines, you must be naive. It is also highly disingenuous for him to claim that he merely “forgot” to mention they weren’t his words. There’s a dfference between prepared speeches and someone who pretends someone else’s clever rhetoric is his own. Nonetheless, this isn’t such a big deal to me. The days of politicians writing their own lines are mostly gone; it just shows that Barack is of his time and not of the former ilk (i.e., not a JFK).
Re: 5) I don’t like Hillary’s use of “the fear tactic” any more than Bush’s. Nor do I like Obama’s ripping off the “vote for change” slogan from the Bill Clinton presidential campaign. So each candidate is doing what she/he can to win. Obama won’t repeal NAFTA (nor will Hillary, who wasn’t even a politician when it was passed and, ergo, bears no liability for NAFTA, as Obama is trying to falsely depict; he wants to increase the military budget (not very anti-war, is it?); he is NOT for universal healthcare (or is deceived into thinking he can get there through voluntary coverage–it won’t happen under an Obama presidency, as we all might learn).
Re: 6) Hillary is certainly beholden to special interests, but no more so than most other senators. Meanwhile, Obama simply takes money from employees of lobying firms, rather than directly from registered lobbyists, to cover his tracks. Of course, he’s new and gets less money, but give him a couple of years; his lobbying money will also climb. I don’t trust either of them much, but I know that Clinton has more means of accomplishing her legislation than Obama, and if we only got universal healthcare out of the next presidency, that would be a huge improvement in this country.
Finally, if Hillary weren’t such a threat to the establishment, deals with the devil aside, then why are the Republicans so violently afraid of her taking the White House? That’s not the way our oligarchy historically treats those beholden to special interests.
Then again, perhaps you prefer Obama’s fake-preacher-”I’m gonna clean up Washington”-tone–it sure sounds nice, if hollow…
you can pro and con both democratic candidates to infinity.
the point is these two people have finally got the democrats off the couch and voting. this is what is so great–the people are finally awake!!!